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	<title>Comments on: The First Step Is The Most Important, But The 12 Step Program Is Not Right For Everyone</title>
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		<title>By: SNYC</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kind of amazed at the degree of medical and spiritual irresponsibility exhibited on this &quot;blog&quot;. (I place the word &quot;blog&quot; in quotation marks because this is clearly an ad campaign masquerading as homespun advice tailored for Joe Q. Executive). My consolation, however, is that anyone who has experienced true recovery from alcoholism will immediately recognize that the information in this &quot;blog&quot; is dangerous and almost entirely contrary to the fundamental notions of recovery from alcoholism. 

It is ridiculous to suggest that &quot;professionals&quot; don&#039;t have time to devote to an honest and thorough recovery - if they had the time to drink, they can make the time to get sober. Meetings are an hour long - a mere fraction of the time that most active alcoholics spend drinking on a daily basis. I know many, many &quot;professional types&quot; who are active and contributing members of AA - many of them, in fact, credit their success at work to their personal development as a result of the AA program. 

It is unbelievably condescending of you to suggest that &quot;professionals&quot; represent a different CLASS of alcoholic - class divisions of this kind are actively (but peaceably) discouraged among alcoholics sharing the common goal of sobriety. Your tone suggests that people who have not been conventionally successful &quot;belong&quot; in AA, because of their inherent lesser value to the world at large, whereas conventionally successful &quot;manager&quot; types need another form of care that will allow them to stay at work, this keeping the wheels of the world turning for the rest of us. What absolute crap. 

AA meetings are not groups of sad, underachieving losers sitting in dank basements crying in their coffee while the &quot;real&quot; people get help elsewhere. AA is all-inclusive and offers the same promises and the same program to each and every member - be they &quot;management&quot; material or (gasp) those less successful or less educated. 

I encourage anyone reading this to try the divisive, non-inclusive, close-minded form of recovery described in this blog. And when you do, and it fails utterly, I hope to see you in a meeting sometime.  

I&#039;m an not an AA fanatic (in fact, I could use some more meetings myself), nor am I someone who routinely comments angrily on blogs. However, the snake-oil salesman tone of this blog entry prompted me to make my feelings known. 

I bear you no ill-will personally, but I hope for the sake of alcoholics everywhere that no one buys this crap. Also, if you are a &quot;manager&quot; or &quot;executive&quot;, you ought to know - AA represents a much better return on your investment. It&#039;s free, it does not create needless divisions between people, and...oh yeah...it actually works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of amazed at the degree of medical and spiritual irresponsibility exhibited on this &#8220;blog&#8221;. (I place the word &#8220;blog&#8221; in quotation marks because this is clearly an ad campaign masquerading as homespun advice tailored for Joe Q. Executive). My consolation, however, is that anyone who has experienced true recovery from alcoholism will immediately recognize that the information in this &#8220;blog&#8221; is dangerous and almost entirely contrary to the fundamental notions of recovery from alcoholism. </p>
<p>It is ridiculous to suggest that &#8220;professionals&#8221; don&#8217;t have time to devote to an honest and thorough recovery &#8211; if they had the time to drink, they can make the time to get sober. Meetings are an hour long &#8211; a mere fraction of the time that most active alcoholics spend drinking on a daily basis. I know many, many &#8220;professional types&#8221; who are active and contributing members of AA &#8211; many of them, in fact, credit their success at work to their personal development as a result of the AA program. </p>
<p>It is unbelievably condescending of you to suggest that &#8220;professionals&#8221; represent a different CLASS of alcoholic &#8211; class divisions of this kind are actively (but peaceably) discouraged among alcoholics sharing the common goal of sobriety. Your tone suggests that people who have not been conventionally successful &#8220;belong&#8221; in AA, because of their inherent lesser value to the world at large, whereas conventionally successful &#8220;manager&#8221; types need another form of care that will allow them to stay at work, this keeping the wheels of the world turning for the rest of us. What absolute crap. </p>
<p>AA meetings are not groups of sad, underachieving losers sitting in dank basements crying in their coffee while the &#8220;real&#8221; people get help elsewhere. AA is all-inclusive and offers the same promises and the same program to each and every member &#8211; be they &#8220;management&#8221; material or (gasp) those less successful or less educated. </p>
<p>I encourage anyone reading this to try the divisive, non-inclusive, close-minded form of recovery described in this blog. And when you do, and it fails utterly, I hope to see you in a meeting sometime.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m an not an AA fanatic (in fact, I could use some more meetings myself), nor am I someone who routinely comments angrily on blogs. However, the snake-oil salesman tone of this blog entry prompted me to make my feelings known. </p>
<p>I bear you no ill-will personally, but I hope for the sake of alcoholics everywhere that no one buys this crap. Also, if you are a &#8220;manager&#8221; or &#8220;executive&#8221;, you ought to know &#8211; AA represents a much better return on your investment. It&#8217;s free, it does not create needless divisions between people, and&#8230;oh yeah&#8230;it actually works.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomfromalcohol.com/blog/2009/10/15/the-first-step-is-the-most-important-but-the-12-step-program-is-not-right-for-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-9097</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the post. 
Yes, going away for treatment is not always an option for some. However, hitting an outpatient detox and rehab is a GREAT alternative!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the post.<br />
Yes, going away for treatment is not always an option for some. However, hitting an outpatient detox and rehab is a GREAT alternative!</p>
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